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Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 10:49 AM
Subject: [G-TNT] Digest Number 2729


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 There are 25 messages in this issue.

 Topics in this digest:

       1. Poodles are wierd?
            From: "adogsdomain" <adogsdomain@yahoo.com>
       2. Help needed
            From: "Amy" <canoeluv@yahoo.com>
       3. Re: Digest Number 2728
            From: Kchellybelly@aol.com
       4. Re: Help needed
            From: "Nora Maloy" <paws4grooming@charter.net>
       5. US Pet Pro Classic Party suggestions needed :o)
            From: "Patty Martin" <patty@bow-wow-wheels.com>
       6. Ultimate owners-need a part number or picture
            From: "Patty Martin" <patty@bow-wow-wheels.com>
       7. before/after
            From: RedOctBrat@aol.com
       8. Re: Re: damp shaving
            From: pomeraniac3@aol.com
       9. Re: Help needed
            From: "Amy" <canoeluv@yahoo.com>
      10. Re: HELP - Purple poodle
            From: gr8pets@juno.com
      11. Re: before/after
            From: BBird <petpals@dakotacom.net>
      12. test
            From: Tracey Kaul <dkaul@carr.org>
      13. Re: test
            From: Doggroomr@aol.com
      14. Re: Major Moderator
            From: ClassicClips@AOL.com
      15. Re: Nell Cats & Chickens
            From: ClassicClips@AOL.com
      16. Re: Pictures?
            From: "Sheri" <gigazoo2@charter.net>
      17. Re: US Pet Pro Classic Party suggestions needed :o)
            From: ChesneyMarie@webtv.net
      18. Re: electrician husband!
            From: "Donna Regan" <wayward@alwaysoncall.net>
      19. Re: Re: Major Moderator
            From: BBird <petpals@dakotacom.net>
      20. The Wonderful Cubist Standard Poodle in Groomer to Groomer
            From: ClassicClips@AOL.com
      21. Is there a New Orleans Groomer on this list?
            From: ClassicClips@AOL.com
      22. OT: Humor:0) Laugh for the day
            From: ClassicClips@AOL.com
      23. LipSystem
            From: "megshawnmom" <megshawnmom@yahoo.com>
      24. Training advice
            From: "Debbie Hyde" <bdazzled@iinet.net.au>
      25. Favourite use for Ice on Ice?
            From: "Debbie Hyde" <bdazzled@iinet.net.au>


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> Message: 1
   Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 21:06:14 -0000
   From: "adogsdomain" <adogsdomain@yahoo.com>
Subject: Poodles are wierd?
 please elaborate!

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 Message: 2
    Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 22:05:44 -0000
    From: "Amy" <canoeluv@yahoo.com>
 Subject: Help needed

 Well, I have my first St. Bernard (LH) coming in next week.  The man
 just got him from someone.  She has been neglected.  Please tell me
 most Saints are nice!  LOL.  How much do you charge for these big
 guys?  Any tricks for a matted St. Bernard?  I am hoping I can avoid
 shaving it.  thanks-Amy


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 Message: 3
    Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:12:31 EDT
    From: Kchellybelly@aol.com
 Subject: Re: Digest Number 2728

 In a message dated 8/22/2003 4:14:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
 Groom_TNT@yahoogroups.com writes:

 > Nell, I'm not afraid of chickens, but I have a fear of geese.

 This is too funny...I just have to pipe in here (I'm a member of "Lurkers
 Anynomous" LOL!)  I'm terrified of Turkeys!....(also spiders and Brittany
 Spaniels)  About 2 years ago I was grooming a client's mini-poo at her place of work
 (a big company set way out in the woods).......anywho, I get out of my van and
  look up and there's this crazy looking bird standing there not 5 feet in
 front of me.....this thing must have been about 4-5 ft tall!  I didn't know what
 the heck he was (I had never seen a wild turkey....just "Butterball,
Pilgrim, Thanksgiving" turkeys) This thing was making all these threatening noises
and flapping his wings....I scooped the mini-poo up and ran like a crazy woman
 towards the building...this turkey chased me and even caught my grooming
smock a couple of times......wouldn't ya know it...there was a whole group of
 employee's having lunch outside and laughing hysterically at the whole
scene!!


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  Message: 4
    Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:44:41 -0400
    From: "Nora Maloy" <paws4grooming@charter.net>
 Subject: Re: Help needed

 The 2 StBs I knew were nice and slow and like to lie down a lot.  I used
to
 shave them, but knowing what I know now, I would suggest you lather them
up
 and brush while soapy, condition and repeat brushing.  For pricing, charge
 by your hourly rate and add something for SIZE.  Just give an broad
 estimate, like at least $60 (or whatever) and keep track of your time.
 Don't forget there is the short hair and longer hair variety, but don't
 mention that to the client. In client eyes, they are all short-haired. LOL
 Nora
 Paws For Grooming, LLC
 Newnan, GA
 And now a word from my Sponsor:  John 14:6



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 Message: 5
    Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 16:44:45 -0400
    From: "Patty Martin" <patty@bow-wow-wheels.com>
 Subject: US Pet Pro Classic Party suggestions needed :o)

 Ok ya'll :o)  If you're gonna supply questions you have to supply the
 answers, too, so those attending the party will know, OK?  That way we can
 make cheat sheets LOL!!  (DO NOT tell anyone however heh heh heh...this is
 just between us!)  Well, **ya'll** can make cheat sheets since I'm not
 eligible to win, OK?


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 Message: 6
    Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 14:24:15 -0400
    From: "Patty Martin" <patty@bow-wow-wheels.com>
 Subject: Ultimate owners-need a part number or picture

 Can someone please help me?  I have to replace the pump in the back of the
 van-the one that's bolted to the floor between the shop vac and the
outside wall of the van.  I have previously replaced it with another pump that
 wasn't original equipment and now **that** pump is throwing pieces of
stuff out of it that look like little pieces of black paint and it's causing my
 radiator to stop up and the van runs hot because of it.  (FINALLY figured
it out-no thanks to the Ford place-THEY won't listen to me because I'm
*just** the dog lady-grrrrr!!!!!!)  If you can send me  the part number or a
picture so I'll have something to go by while I look, I'd sure appreciate it!!
 Thanks in advance :o)

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 Message: 7
    Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 20:29:16 EDT
    From: RedOctBrat@aol.com
 Subject: before/after

 Hi All,
 I would like to make up a book of before and after pics of just "pet
trims" that I can use to show people examples and help them to decide what they
want. I have many of the large Master Works posters that feature the purebreds
and I use those as examples of "clean face, clean feet, skirt...etc" but am
having a difficult time finding the mixed breed personality cuts.  Can anyone
 recommend any sites that I may be able to get some?  I will list the site
along with the pics in the book so that the appropriate people can get credit if they
 like.  Thanks.
 Cindy
 The Barking Lot

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 Message: 8
    Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 20:44:21 EDT
    From: pomeraniac3@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: damp shaving

 In a message dated 8/21/2003 7:47:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
 ChesneyMarie@webtv.net writes:

   > .  I guess a 2 hour
   > nap on the table (she looked too comfortable to move)

 Awe! I can almost picture it!


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 Message: 9
    Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 01:30:49 -0000
    From: "Amy" <canoeluv@yahoo.com>
 Subject: Re: Help needed

 Thanks Nora.  She is Long Hair & the owner said she is matted behind
 the ears & that I will have to look at the body.  He just got the dog
 about a week ago from someone else.  I did tell him that it sounded
 pricey but I would have to see the dog.  I only knew one Saint & I
 LOVED him.  Hopefully this one will be just as nice.  Her name is
 Molly-surely a dog named Molly wouldn't bite right?  I just do not
 want to shave it-too hard on my blades & a giant pain in the rear.  I
 will follow your advice & try to brush her out with the shampoo &
 conditioners in the coat.  iSmart & refurbish & Glo Coat.  He did say
 she is beautiful.

 One of my clients referred him & said "I was the best".  That makes
 me feel really good.  The client who referred me has a 17 year old
 blind, deaf Shih Tzu that I do in a puppy cut, so what she was
 referring to was how I handle her dog.  I let their daughter stay the
 last time so the dog would totally relax.  I never realized how much
 a part of people's lives you become when you groom the elderly & sick
 dogs.  You feel like you are stressing over losing your own pet.
 Last night, I groomed the Sheltie that has deteriorating nerve
 condition.  She is only about 9 & is a real trooper.  Owners have had
 her all over to experts.  She uses a wheel cart now.  Such a
 sweetie.  She fell asleep in the crate last night & was watching her
 like she was my own!  Worried about her future.  (Sigh.)  Dogs just
 don't live long enough!   Amy  : )

 -- In Groom_TNT@yahoogroups.com, "Nora Maloy" <paws4grooming@c...>
 wrote:
 > The 2 StBs I knew were nice and slow and like to lie down a lot.  I
 used to
 > shave them, but knowing what I know now, I would suggest you lather
 them up
 > and brush while soapy, condition and repeat brushing.  For pricing,
 charge
 > by your hourly rate and add something for SIZE.  Just give an broad
 > estimate, like at least $60 (or whatever) and keep track of your
 time.
 > Don't forget there is the short hair and longer hair variety, but
 don't
 > mention that to the client. In client eyes, they are all short-
 haired. LOL
 > Nora
 > Paws For Grooming, LLC
 > Newnan, GA
 > And now a word from my Sponsor:  John 14:6
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 Message: 10
    Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 01:41:49 GMT
    From: gr8pets@juno.com
 Subject: Re: HELP - Purple poodle


 I have no experience with purple colored poodles, but didn't we just have
complaints about the de-skunking formula bleaching out some coats?? Maybe
try the peroxide-soda-soap thing??
 Just a thought from a sleepy mind.
 --BarbaraV
 gr8pets@juno.com

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 Message: 11
    Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 18:57:03 -0700
    From: BBird <petpals@dakotacom.net>
 Subject: Re: before/after

 I have a silly little idea.  How about joining our sister list,
 groompics-TNT@yahoogroups.com and ask the list to submit some of their
 pictures?  It could provide a great group project and everybody could
share
 their mixed breed personality cuts.
 BBird
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 Message: 12
    Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 23:33:05 -0400
    From: Tracey Kaul <dkaul@carr.org>
 Subject: test

 test
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 Message: 13
    Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 23:47:25 EDT
    From: Doggroomr@aol.com
 Subject: Re: test

 you  passed

 ~Mechele~
 Pearland, Texas

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 Message: 14
    Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 00:01:19 EDT
    From: ClassicClips@AOL.com
 Subject: Re: Major Moderator

 BBird, I think the flames are over. I am now back reading the wonderful
post from my grooming friends.
 
 Sincerely Terri
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 Message: 15
    Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 00:05:50 EDT
    From: ClassicClips@AOL.com
 Subject: Re: Nell Cats & Chickens

 Nell wrote: To be honest I do not like cats at all and I am scared of two
 things. Cats and Chickens.
 Nell, Please Don't be scared of Chicken! They can be delicious! Cats on
the other hand, Hmmm I just don't know! Yes, I would be afraid of them too,
just don't know how they would taste! (OK just a Warped Joke! :0) Terri)
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 Message: 16
    Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 00:07:52 -0500
    From: "Sheri" <gigazoo2@charter.net>
 Subject: Re: Pictures?

 >> I could bang my head but what good would that do?<<

 >>It would give you an occiput.<<Nora

 LOL, Nora! You're on a roll :)
 Sheri
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 Message: 17
    Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 07:11:02 -0500 (CDT)
    From: ChesneyMarie@webtv.net
 Subject: Re: US Pet Pro Classic Party suggestions needed :o)

 You must have missed Nora's post.  I thought her answers were quite
 good.

 Chesney


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 Message: 18
    Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2003 17:22:21 -0500
    From: "Donna Regan" <wayward@alwaysoncall.net>
 Subject: Re: electrician husband!

 could the electrician husband email me again! I have my information about
 the surge problem...just can't find where I put your letter!!!!! Thanks a
 bunch.
 Donna Regan
 Best Friends Grooming
 McComb, MS

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 Message: 19
    Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 06:29:30 -0700
    From: BBird <petpals@dakotacom.net>
 Subject: Re: Re: Major Moderator


 This is excellent advice, Terri.  Thanks. I'm very glad to see you posting
 again.
 Carry ON!
 BBird

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 Message: 20
    Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:38:25 EDT
    From: ClassicClips@AOL.com
 Subject: The Wonderful Cubist Standard Poodle in Groomer to Groomer

 Has anyone seen the Square Cubed Cut Standard Poodle in Groomer to
Groomer? I loved it!  We have a bet going, I think it is real, my friend says it is
 computer generated. What do you think? Talk about creative grooming WOW!
Also the National Averages for Grooming Prices are in this issue on page 34. Tell
us what you think! Thanks in Advance Terri
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 Message: 21
    Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:41:51 EDT
    From: ClassicClips@AOL.com
 Subject: Is there a New Orleans Groomer on this list?

 I am planning on visiting New Orleans next Friday and would like to meet
 some groomers from this list while driving there. If there are any in
Slidel,La., or Meridian MS. or there abouts, please email me privately. Thank you!
 Sincerely Terri Curry

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 Message: 22
    Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 09:44:16 EDT
    From: ClassicClips@AOL.com
 Subject: OT: Humor:0) Laugh for the day


 Calm As A Cucumber

 A hurricane blew across the Caribbean. It didn't take long for the
 expensive yacht to be swamped by high waves, sinking without a trace.
 There were only two survivors: the boat's owner, Dr. Eskin, and the
 steward, Benny. Both managed to swim to the closest island. After
 reaching the deserted strip of land, the steward was crying and very
 upset that they would never be found. The other man was quite calm,
 relaxing against a tree.

 "Dr. Eskin, Dr. Eskin, how can you be so calm?" cried the
 Benny. "We're going to die on this lonely island. We'll never be
 discovered here!"

 "Sit down and listen to what I have to say, Benny," began the
 confident doctor. "Five years ago I gave the United Way $500,000. I
 donated the same amounts four years ago. And, three years ago, since
 I did very well in the stock market, I contributed $750,000 to each.
 Last year business was good again, so the two charities each got a
 million dollars."

 "So what?" shouted Benny.

 "Well," explained Dr. Eskin, "it's time for their annual fund drive.
 They'll find me."

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 Message: 23
    Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 15:27:30 -0000
    From: "megshawnmom" <megshawnmom@yahoo.com>
 Subject: LipSystem


   I am so grateful to Curtis for inventing the LipSystem.

   My life as a groomer is so much better. On Thursday I had such a

   cow of a dog on the table , he has always had to have his nails
 done by a vet and we have never been able to do a complete groom on
 him before. Because of the Lip System, not only did I finish his
 groom, was able to do his nails.

   In the overview, I don't have to continally fight with dogs to
 stand anymore, neither do I have to chase the little dears around
 table because they don't want their pads cleaned out.

   There is far less wear and tear on my body and on my nerves.

   I can't say enough wonderful things about Hanvey's LipSystem.

   THANK YOU CURTIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   Regards

   Brenda

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 Message: 24
    Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 15:26:43 +0800
    From: "Debbie Hyde" <bdazzled@iinet.net.au>
 Subject: Training advice

 Hi Tina,

 It sounds to me that Jerry is calling the shots here and both you and your
 husband are inadvertently supporting his place in the hierarchy.  He is
 probably confused and is using the only means that he knows to get his own
 way. I would be starting Obedience lessons pronto.  You may not ever wish
to  trial him, that is not the point.  Formal training will help you to
clearly establish who is boss in a humane way.  There is absolutely no need to
train with harsh physical methods,  motivational training is the way to go.
Teach  him behaviours and reward him for doing as he is told.  Clicker training
is great and he can be rewarded by both you and you and your husband for
walking nicely on a lead for example.  You may not need formal heel but it
 might help to break this behaviour.  I would definitely train a reliable
 recall to both of you.  Clicker can help enormously here.  Don't let him off
 lead until this is trained to the point where he will recall to either of
 you when called off ANYTHING. even cats! Tough for a terrier I know LOL.
 train around distractions   Use a long line (30feet) so you are always in
 control.  You may have to go into management mode while you are away as
two weeks is probably not going to be long enough to undo a years worth of him
 getting his own way.  Put a plan in place for the moment and start now
where he is totally under lead or crate control for your husbands sanity.  Just
 remember that clicker training is incredibly effective if done correctly
but you must take it in small steps and TEACH what you want.  Find a good
 trainer in your area, check their credentials and go to it.  You may even
 get the training bug, especially with a dog that naturally wants to look
at you!  People train for this you know LOL!!!

 This is just a quick response to your question,  if you need any further
 information please email me privately if you wish.

 Good luck
 Cheers
 Deb Hyde
 Bobby Dazzler, Western Australia
 OB CH Brynbank Dangerous Liaison Border Collie aka Jasper and Ruby UD ADM
 JDM ET Australian Kelpie

> >    From: "Tina Jane Standing" <groomer@attcanada.ca>
>
> > Ok I know this is a grooming board, but I'd like some advice from any of
> the dog trainers on the board.  Or anyone who may have some words of
wisdom
> for me.
> >
> > I have a year old Border Terrier named Jerry.  He has become a real
> "Mama's boy".  It has gotten to the point now where if my husband takes
his
> leash when we are out walking, Jerry will practically wail with anxiety
and
> make such a fuss that I take the leash back and then for a minute or two
he
> will paw at me and I do ignore him and then the walk is resumed.  When we
> walk, he will look up at me every few minutes just to make sure I am
there.
> I haven't had another dog who did this.  If my husband goes to walk our 4
> dogs and I don't go, Jerry won't go. We usually make him go and he has to
be
> dragged out the door crying.  Last week though he broke free during the
walk
> and ran the whole way home.  Scared the wits out of my husband as Jerry
had
> to cross two sets of streets and he just wouldn't stop or turn around.
> Yesterday our neighbor was over and we hadn't said a thing, but she
> mentioned Jerry being a mama's boy.  How Kevin scolded him for eating a
big
> wad of mulch and Jerry runs to me.  Yes I coddle Jerry.  I love him to
> absolute bits and seeing him so needy makes me want to hug him a little
> closer, but it has gone a bit overboard.  We have 4 dogs and NONE act like
> this. Our other Border, Jessie who is Jerry's sister doesn't act like
this.
> They absolutely see my husband as the alpha.  Kevin doesn't discipline
them
> harshly or anything like that.  I am going away to Hershey in a couple
weeks
> and I worry how he will act.  If he gets away from my husband I'm terrifed
> he won't come back to him and will be looking for me.
> >
> > I had Jerry to the vet regarding a peeing problem. He doesn't
concentrate
> his urine correctly yet, but this is something he will grow out of and if
he
> doesn't they plan to run even more tests, but his bloodwork was all
normal.
> All $400 worth of tests were!!  I did mention this to the vet and he had
no
> real pearl of wisdom.  It used to be just odd to me, but since the running
> off incident it has become scary and way more serious.
> >
> > Anyway, I have stopped making a huge fuss when I come home or when I go
> out, not that I did anyway.    I don't let him on the bed to cuddle
anymore.
> They sometimes sleep with me until Kevin comes to bed and he will let them
> all pee and then crate the terriers.
> >
> > Any advice would be nice. E-mail me privately if you wish.
> >
> > Tina Standing
> > Dog Grooming by Tina
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 Message: 25
    Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 14:18:35 +0800
    From: "Debbie Hyde" <bdazzled@iinet.net.au>
 Subject: Favourite use for Ice on Ice?

 Hi Kathy,

 I love Ice on Ice and find it excellent for deshedding double coated
breeds,  i.e. Goldies, Shepherds BC's etc.  Its also great for detangling.  I use
it neat in a conditioning mix which is then diluted and rinsed through or
used  in a spray bottle as a leave in conditioner.  I also love The Stuff  which
 is a simular product.

 Cheers
 Deb Hyde
 Bobby Dazzler, Western Australia
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